Tough Starter

[dangerSteve]

Hey guys.. had a tinker with the bike in the garden the other day (cr250 '03)! Changed the grips and radiator guards and cleaned up the plastics abit, then I thought I'll start her up!! Not done so since I bought the bike over a week ago, and I wanted to see if bike was smoking anything like it did the night I bought it. At the time the bloke said he'd put some oil in the carb or something to prevent rusting while it was just sat in his shed doing nowt. Anyway... after several swift kicks and a touch of throttle it finally started up!! Very little smoke, and that cleared to virtually none after 5mins or so. I was concered though that after 10 mins the bike would not tick over on its own and that combined with the 7/8 kicks to get it going im wondering what maybe wrong?? Is it just a servicing issue or is this a top end problem? Maybe the previous owner didnt service as much as he should... the kickstart has certainly had some abuse because I took it off thinking the spring and bearing must have fallen out cause its that floppy, but no, they were still there. :confused:

[Dobstar#5]

If its a 2 stroke, you dont want it to tick over, as for the kick startmore than likeley some wear there, try a new spring and bearing or maybe slap some grease in it....

You wont really tell alot from reving it in the garden you need to get out and blast it around a track to find if it has some issues with the carb..

[mxjohnson]

sorry to hijack the thread, but why dont you want 2 strokes to tick over ?

[mxady29]

Im not the best one to answer this but riding a 2 stroke myself it has something to do with the stroke....if you have a tick over the engine will still mantain a forward motion with the throttle shut off, coming into a corner it can make a difference to getting it right or not (ie overshooting the berm/rut) the 4 strokes have a lot more engine braking allowing a tick over to be used and they also dont start as easily as 2 stroke if you stall... think thats about it...:rolleyes:

[dangerSteve]

Seems like the bike is running fine then, just need to get it to a track now to give it a blast. I'm presuming the starting issue maybe just be a servicing problem, I dont know what would effect the starting?? Air filter, carb or spark plug? or maybe a better starting technique?

[Liqueur]

Im not the best one to answer this but riding a 2 stroke myself it has something to do with the stroke....if you have a tick over the engine will still mantain a forward motion with the throttle shut off, coming into a corner it can make a difference to getting it right or not (ie overshooting the berm/rut) the 4 strokes have a lot more engine braking allowing a tick over to be used and they also dont start as easily as 2 stroke if you stall... think thats about it...:rolleyes:

Not bad for an oldy!:lol::lol::lol:
You are quite right Ady.:cool:

[Dobstar#5]

Not bad for an oldy!:lol::lol::lol:
You are quite right Ady.:cool:


spot on fella:xbeer

[Dobstar#5]

Seems like the bike is running fine then, just need to get it to a track now to give it a blast. I'm presuming the starting issue maybe just be a servicing problem, I dont know what would effect the starting?? Air filter, carb or spark plug? or maybe a better starting technique?

Pull out the plug after 15 mins of riding check colour .. your looking for a nice tan colour....

Change the air filter wash it out and re oil it, new spark plug if you got 1! fresh fuel.
ride it check the plug and go from there.....:xbeer

[Factory Les]

I always used to have the tick over turned quite high(ish) on my 2-strokes - just the way I preferred it. It wasn't ticking over properly like a 4 stroke would do, but it was turned up enough so that I could always get my goggles on easy enough without having to blip the throttle again half way through type thing. I preferred it that way - there's no way I'd have ridden one without a little bit of tick over, but personal preference I guess.

Steve - if you wanted to turn the tick over up a little bit there'll be a little screw down by the carb soemwhere. If you have a play with that then that changes how much tick over you'll have. Just have a play and see what works best for you.